Ira Glass, producer of the public radio show, "This American Life," put together a presentation for Grantmakers in the Arts on the importance and success of small, community-based arts programs. Listen to a clip that discusses research by Stanford professor Shirley Brice Heath, and the real-life influence of the arts on Lucia Lopez, a former gang member. The segment aired on the December 18, 1998 episode of the radio show.

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